Winchester M14 Trigger Group

[Jersey Devil]

This appears to be a later, original Winchester trigger group. Note the wear, finish, and presence of a KMT-marked guard and a K8-marked safety.
Thought some here would like to see it.

[RCS]

Do you have the stud or stamped tab on the trigger guard ?

[Jersey Devil]

Robert,
This one is a bent-tab style. I believe all guards marked KMT were of the later, alternate, type with the bent tab.
I do have a couple of the early brazed-pin style as well, but they are completely devoid of any identifiable markings.
---Brian

[RCS]

my note with the M14 trigger guards said that the early trigger guard used the pin to act as the hammer stop, these pins being brazed. This design was changed around late 1960 but Winchester still had the early trigger guard with the pin in Jan 1960

[Jersey Devil]

my note with the M14 trigger guards said that the early trigger guard used the pin to act as the hammer stop, these pins being brazed. This design was changed around late 1960 but Winchester still had the early trigger guard with the pin in Jan 1960

My information is agreeable to yours. Note the guard on my example is stamped with the KMT mark, Killeen Machine And Tool Company, MA. They manufactured parts for Winchester. Most notably op rod spring guides, trigger guards, safeties (marked K8) and magazines, among other small parts. KMT used the later alternate design to the best of my knowledge on all their subcontracted parts as can be seen most notably on their op rod spring guides, magazine followers, and trigger guards.

Not sure if your info on this agrees with mine, but this is what I've put together.

[RCS]

I should have said " the design was changed around Sept 1960, but Winchester still had the early trigger guard with the pin in Jan 1962".

I have a M1A that is in the 40K serial range from around 1987 with some early parts and the early stock with the M1 butt plate

[Jersey Devil]

I should have said " the design was changed around Sept 1960, but Winchester still had the early trigger guard with the pin in Jan 1962".

I have a M1A that is in the 40K serial range from around 1987 with some early parts and the early stock with the M1 butt plate

Yes, I figured you meant sometime after 1960 on that. It's very "Winchester" to keep using older style parts. I believe there are rifles with later serial serial numbers that still have early guards despite KMT providing later guards at some point in production. Like the M1, I suppose they used all that they could when they could.

That M1A sure sounds nice!!

[RCS]

Here is a photo of the rifle with the early M14 stock

[Jersey Devil]

That's a teaser pic!!
We need more pictures to drool over, Robert!!
Has that rifle been together since the 70s?

[RCS]

Receiver is a commercial Springfield M1A from 1987, barrel is SA 1-60. There are both aluminum M1 type butt plates and M1 type butt plates with unique checkering patterns sometimes called inverted from this time period. They are related to the T44 stock variations and can still be found (sometimes).

photo: M14 stock is on the left

[Jersey Devil]

Great info, as always, Robert!