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Ya when I picked my New Garand CMP had changed the Barrel in2019 new GFE Barrel. It really shoots great, I am or was really low on Ammo, so I’ve been on a mission to get more. One of our troopers helped me out, another local Trooper has a 308 Navy, and sold me what he had left in 30/06. Total surprise, never expected it. Called me this morning with the news. Going to start calling him Santa!( Just Kidding) he he, hey Troopers HNY AJ
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The water/ammonia mix really gets rid of the potassium salts that cause the corrosion. Used corrosive Russian ammo for 30 years in a M91 MN with no damage by cleaning out the salts, then using Hoppes and an oil film. I tend to let the solvent sit for a few minutes, then patch it out; repeat if necessary. I don't scrub repeatedly with brushes to avoid damage to the bore, even though I use a ferrule at the muzzle. I've dealt with "coned" at the muzzle bores from cleaning rod wear and other than maybe counterboring, the only way to restore accuracy is to replace the barrel.
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I’ve ran into corrosive ammunition lately, maybe Old Korean loads,but I’ve been using ammonia and hot water to clean my barrel after I shoot. Dry the barrel with patches, I cut an old sponge and place it in the action I only go one way, removing the soiled patch, I always remove my bolt on my 1903 and back clean it, the M-1 makes it little harder, to clean that corrosive stuff has got to be cleaned out of that barrel right away. AJ
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I have the carbon fiber Tipton cleaning rod I've been using for years on all my rifles its great. With the jag and the brush no problem.
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This is an old post, not to offend any of my friends, but I’ve never used that bore snake, and that kit in the But stock the steel rod I think 5 pieces all steel, I don’t use that. I have a solid aluminum cleaning rod, and yes I take it with me when I go to the range, to fire. I usually shoot 20 rounds, ammunition is getting hard to get, even in 150gr, M2 so I’ve been conserving at that rate, until I start getting my 48 round bandoliers, again. But to make a long story short, after I fire I clean dipped in hoppies a bore brush, usually two swipes, I have a bottle with dry cleaning fluid clean the brush and dip it in Hoppies and run it again that bore brush is stored in the dry cleaning fluid. The crap is amazing that comes out of that barrel . Patch with Hoppies and dry patch, then use Remington oil pan patch the barrel. And store I fire 1903 and M-1 Garand.
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I've never once cleaned any of my rifles...just kidding,I prefer the rod.
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To pile on, I am with Phil. I use them for a quick wipe. However, that said, if you break a bore snake in your bore you will most likely never use one again.
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I start with the bore snake to get the big stuff but finish with the rod. Can't beat patches.
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Have to agree with Mike on barrel crown damage. Had a Browning Safarie in 300 Win Mag that was a tack driver and it some how got a nick in the barrel crown and I thought I had pickup a shotgun instead of my favorite Elk rifle. Take care of the crown!
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The snake is good for a "quick and dirty" cleaning right after a range session but, as others have said, rod, patch, jag are the way to get a really clean bore. I believe the one area of concern, when cleaning with a rod, is protecting the barrel crown when, if damaged, can affect accuracy big time.
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Garanditis commented
09-12-2016, 08:36 PM
I've only been in the GCA for about a year now. Any chance this article is available online?
Part 2 of the article on Muzzle Erosion is in the Spring 2009 issue of the GCA magazine.
I don't have part 1, but the Spring 2009 gives a brief overview of part 1 and the results of their test.
I would post copies here on the forum but the GCA gestapo would come after me for copyright infringement.Last edited by jak; 09-16-2016, 02:30 PM.
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