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    New Garand - December 1942

    So living in the UK it can be hard to find deactivated (Demilled) M1 Rifles with wartime barrel as the barrels are welded to receiver. They stopped deactivating them this way in 1995 so any ones like bud have been deactivated from the 1970s - 1995.

    With this being said there are some gems to be found if you look hard enough and have a bit of luck!πŸ˜‰

    I was lucky enough to find this 42 SA post lend lease. From the pics it is 90% Correct Parts and only needs some small internal parts replaced which baffled me as why would you have an all original M1 and only change the internals?πŸ€”Surely if any parts were to be worn and needing replaced it would be the barrel?

    From the pics you can see:

    Flush Nut Rear sights - I think these could be repro but won't know till I get it. Will check for short pinion and which aperture it has.

    Bolt is in line with serial number.

    Gas Cylinder is narrow base with front site seal.

    Bullet guide - Post war, I have a forged and milked one to replace.

    Op Rod Catch looks to be mid - post war (will check this). I do have an 0 marked one for it.

    Will need to check follower arm for raised s markings. I may have a spare of these.

    Operating Rod fork should be the short Rivited but it is hard to tell from photos. I do have a spare.

    Clip Latch is rounded which is nice because I find them hard to find.

    Gas Cylinder Screw looks good.

    SA 5 Trigger Housing with trigger spring housing in white looks good. Hopefully it has an SA 2 Hammer but if not I do have a spare.

    SA 8 Follower which is correct.

    Barrel

    Stock could possibly be original however looks like it may have been sanded!😲😭 I will check for internal stamps and Proof Stamps under Handguard. Will also check for long channel and any sign of modified Gas Trap Butt.

    My Questions:

    Should I try to find Type 1 Lockbar for it?

    Should knobs be knurled or chequered or a mix of both?

    This is a May of 1942 Rifle with a May 1942 Barrel so has a strong chance of being original to the rifle. Technically it should be a GHS Stock, would I get away with giving it an E McF stock as I have a full one just waiting for an M1 to be seated in it!😁

    Thank you!

    Scott

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    Your rifle is not early enough to use a op rod catch with a "0" on accelerator. It would use a unmarked no lip op rod catch
    Type 1 would be correct,knurled windage, checkered elevation. Should have a SA/GHS small ordance wheel stock

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      #3
      May or June 1942 Springfield would have a Type 1 lock bar (same thread as the flush nut also with short pinion) . I have a Springfield s/n 613217 with a S-A 6-42 dated barrel. The bolt is D28287-12 SA RE5B with the hole through the right locking lug. Op rod is uncut rev 3. rear sight: cover is coded, short pinion, windage knob knurled elevation knob checkered. Follower #8, bullet guide milled, op rod catch without finish no lip on accelerator. Follower arm late, follower rod short fork. Stock short channel faint SA GHS, rear hand guard clip milled with groove, op rod cut. Click image for larger version

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        lists the Op Rod Catch as being 0 marked.

        Scott

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          #5
          early Springfield operating rod catch with 0 stamp used up into early four digit serial range (example Canfield's s/n 2126)

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            #6
            My SA 200442 has one if them. The datasheets list the 0 marked op rod catch much later than that.

            Scott

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              #7
              Do yourself a favor and do not use that web site, it is full of inaccuracy's. You are better off asking here and listening to what you are told, we will not give you inaccurate information

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                #8
                Ok cheers mate😁Do you have a pic of the op rod catch I need to find?

                Cheers!

                Scott

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                    #10
                    Spot on mate thank you!

                    Scott

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                      #11
                      On the accelerator on the catch there are two types, accelerator with and without lip. I "think" they changed over to accelerator with lip mid 1942. That being said either would probably be correct for you rifle as they would have run parts until old type was used up
                      Someone else may come along with their opinion

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                        #12
                        Anyone have a pic of an OP rod catch with accelerator with lip vs without?

                        Scott

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                          #13
                          A op rod catch "with lip" will have a ridge or lip on the top on one end of the accelerator. Without lip will be smooth, no lip

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                            #14
                            Thanks Orlando!

                            Scott

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                              #15
                              Ok. I'm confused. Your subject line states it's a December '42 rifle but in the body of your posting you state it's a May '42 receiver and barrel. Which is it? There could be specific part differences. If it's a December rifle, your EMF stock would be correct.
                              Jon
                              Last edited by TJT; 06-09-2020, 11:57 PM.

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