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    P Serif question

    Can anyone advise if the serifed P ABSOLUTELY showed up at the 425 000 mark? I keep seeing earlier Garands for sale (Aug '41 ish, 325 000ish) offered for sale?
    I also own an early LL with serif.
    Thanks in advance for any advise

    #2
    SA has used the serifed P since before the Civil War.
    Jon

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      #3
      That is not correct as early Springfield 1903 rifles had the non serif P in a circle proof (I have one from 1907) and the early SA SPG large over small hole no trap stocks also have the non serif P in a circle proof stamp too. The P proof with serif in a circle started on M1 rifle stocks early in 1940
      Last edited by RCS; 02-24-2018, 08:44 PM.

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        #4
        thanks for the info

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          #5
          My 1863 Springfield, 1873 Springfield and 1898 Springfield all have serrifed P's. I'm just sayin'
          Jon

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            #6
            They used both depending .

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              #7
              The M1 production stocks changed to the serif circle P right around the period the drawing number was discontinued. I have seen the large over small hole no trap stock with both the non serif P in a circle and without the drawing number and the large over small hole no trap stock with the serif P in circle and also without the drawing number. The large over small hole no trap stock without the drawing number and non serif P in circle is quite rare to find

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                #8
                SA also used the fancy scripped "P" on the Kraig rifles.

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                  #9
                  You are correct Phil, SA and Rock Island also used the "script" or fancy P on the 1903 rifles, but some SA rifles used the non serif or plain P in a circle too. This started with the early 30-06 chambered rifles. My 1903 has a Feb 1907 barrel which is original to the receiver sn (160963) and the stock has the CCV inspector stamp with the plain non serif P in circle.

                  When SA manufactured the large over small hole no trap stock with the SA SPG cartouche they used the plain non serif P in circle proof along with the drawing number. This continued until early 1940 when the P with serifs in a circle proof replaced the early proof stamp. Winchester also used the serif P in a circle proof

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                    #10
                    Ahhhh, I thought this post segwayed into "P"'s in general, so feeling left out I thought I would chime in.

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                      #11
                      great info
                      thanks fellas

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                        #12
                        Any of you guys know anything about LEAD marked receivers?

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                          #13
                          concerning LEAD marked receivers the guy to contact is rob30-06 he is a member here

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                            #14
                            What is it you want to know?
                            A Garand with LEAD and the date etched on the receiver legs shows that the rifle was rebuilt at Letterkenny Arsenal . These have become collectable in the last few years

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                            • LIGarand
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                              Just wondering if a Winchester LEAD is worth more than a Springfield?
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