P Serif question

[LIGarand]

Can anyone advise if the serifed P ABSOLUTELY showed up at the 425 000 mark? I keep seeing earlier Garands for sale (Aug '41 ish, 325 000ish) offered for sale?
I also own an early LL with serif.
Thanks in advance for any advise

[TJT]

SA has used the serifed P since before the Civil War.
Jon

[RCS]

That is not correct as early Springfield 1903 rifles had the non serif P in a circle proof (I have one from 1907) and the early SA SPG large over small hole no trap stocks also have the non serif P in a circle proof stamp too. The P proof with serif in a circle started on M1 rifle stocks early in 1940

[LIGarand]

thanks for the info

[TJT]

My 1863 Springfield, 1873 Springfield and 1898 Springfield all have serrifed P's. I'm just sayin'
Jon

[Bubba1]

They used both depending .

[RCS]

The M1 production stocks changed to the serif circle P right around the period the drawing number was discontinued. I have seen the large over small hole no trap stock with both the non serif P in a circle and without the drawing number and the large over small hole no trap stock with the serif P in circle and also without the drawing number. The large over small hole no trap stock without the drawing number and non serif P in circle is quite rare to find

[Phil McGrath]

SA also used the fancy scripped "P" on the Kraig rifles.

[RCS]

You are correct Phil, SA and Rock Island also used the "script" or fancy P on the 1903 rifles, but some SA rifles used the non serif or plain P in a circle too. This started with the early 30-06 chambered rifles. My 1903 has a Feb 1907 barrel which is original to the receiver sn (160963) and the stock has the CCV inspector stamp with the plain non serif P in circle.

When SA manufactured the large over small hole no trap stock with the SA SPG cartouche they used the plain non serif P in circle proof along with the drawing number. This continued until early 1940 when the P with serifs in a circle proof replaced the early proof stamp. Winchester also used the serif P in a circle proof

[Phil McGrath]

Ahhhh, I thought this post segwayed into "P"'s in general, so feeling left out I thought I would chime in.

[LIGarand]

great info
thanks fellas

[LIGarand]

Any of you guys know anything about LEAD marked receivers?

[RCS]

concerning LEAD marked receivers the guy to contact is rob30-06 he is a member here

[Orlando]

What is it you want to know?
A Garand with LEAD and the date etched on the receiver legs shows that the rifle was rebuilt at Letterkenny Arsenal . These have become collectable in the last few years

[LIGarand]

Just wondering if a Winchester LEAD is worth more than a Springfield?