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    Winchester buttplate?

    Hello everyone! I just purchased this Winchester M1 garand. This is serial number 1,298,xxx which dates to March 1943. This particular rifle is all correct and I believe all original. All three pieces of wood appear to be original and unsanded. Cartouches are excellent, no rebuild marks or import marks. Two questions I have of which one will be in another posting. I will start off with the buttplate. The finish matches excellent with the wood and the rest of the rifle. This is one of which is not marked 2S. I believe I understand Winchester used some non-2S buttplates if I'm not mistaken him. My question is could this be one of those and what should I look for if this is a non-2S buttplate?

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    Here are some more pictures!!

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      #3
      Take the buttplate off, take a pic of the backside and we can give you a solid answer.
      Last edited by SFCDave; 07-17-2017, 12:42 AM.

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        #4
        Here are some pictures of the back of the buttplate. What exactly are we looking for on the back? What can tell us it is a Winchester versus a Springfield?

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          #5
          Jeff,
          That's a super-nice rifle.
          Congrats on getting it.

          Does the buttplate match the ferule?
          Welcome to the Addiction!

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            #6
            Ok, here we go.

            #1 - Notice how the lower checkering comes up to a point (red circle). On all other plates the checkering won't go up quite as high and will end flat instead of a point.

            #2 - Notice how the lower screw hole looks to be off-center to the left? The hole is actually centered, the stamped checkering is what is off-centered.

            #3 - The border of the checkering will be nice and crisp on a plate without a lot of wear.


            Your buttplate is SA. I have a couple of WRA plates if you would like to swap...just let me know.



            Last edited by SFCDave; 07-17-2017, 12:44 AM.

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              #7
              Thank you JD and SFCDave! Is your pictured buttplate that of a 2S or one not marked 2S? If it is a non 2S, they must have the same chacteristics of the 2S stamped plates.

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                #8
                I do already know that these three items which you pointed out are the same very characteristics of a 2S marked buttplate. Did the unmarked buttplates for Winchester also carry these three same characteristics? Just a question! Does anyone know for sure? There is no information in any books on this topic that I know of. Thanks!

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                  #9
                  Looks like a great rifle. Looks like it has blued screws in the pics and that is something I always look for on original rifles.
                  What does the gas cylinder look like? Dulite color?

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                    #10
                    Hello Kevin, thank you for your reply!! The gas cylinder is Winchester and sort of seems bluish in some of my photos. It's not as blue as I would think it should be. Every other part on this Winchester is spot on and I believe original given the wear patterns on everything.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by utah45 View Post
                      I do already know that these three items which you pointed out are the same very characteristics of a 2S marked buttplate. Did the unmarked buttplates for Winchester also carry these three same characteristics? Just a question! Does anyone know for sure? There is no information in any books on this topic that I know of. Thanks!
                      Yes unmarked buttplates have same characteristics,

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                        #12
                        Thank you very much Orlando!!!!!

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