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    I am of the age where my reflex actions are not the best. Is the Holbrook Device a viable option to avoid a loading accident? Is there any issues in installing or using this device?

    #2
    Just remember that it is impossible, at least VERY unlikely, to get M1 thumb when loading a FULL clip into the rifle. The laws of physics won't allow it. One gets M1 thumb when doing some thing stupid like pushing down on the follower with an empty magazine, or fooling with the rifle when the bolt isn't locked back all the way and just sitting on the tail of the follower. To answer your questions, if you can dis/reassemble the rifle without any problems, then yes, it's an easy fix. Personally, I think it's just another gimmick that some one's getting rich on. The best thing to do is to learn how to operate the machinery properly, the way it was designed to be used.
    Just sayin'.........
    Jon

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      #3
      Originally posted by TJT View Post
      Just remember that it is impossible, at least VERY unlikely, to get M1 thumb when loading a FULL clip into the rifle. The laws of physics won't allow it. One gets M1 thumb when doing some thing stupid like pushing down on the follower with an empty magazine, or fooling with the rifle when the bolt isn't locked back all the way and just sitting on the tail of the follower. To answer your questions, if you can dis/reassemble the rifle without any problems, then yes, it's an easy fix. Personally, I think it's just another gimmick that some one's getting rich on. The best thing to do is to learn how to operate the machinery properly, the way it was designed to be used.
      Just sayin'.........
      Jon
      I agree, make sure your rifle functions properly, take it a smith that knows Garands and have it checked out. Load full clips and shoot full clips, steady the rifle on a table and use two hands to close her up on an empty chamber.

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        #4
        Does anyone know of a smith in the Chattanooga TN area that knows Garands?

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          #5
          Beware of the guy who calls himself a 'smith just because he has a workbench and an AR barrel wrench. There are very few 'smiths out there that actually KNOW the ins and outs of the M1 rifle.
          Jon

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            #6
            Originally posted by TJT View Post
            Beware of the guy who calls himself a 'smith just because he has a workbench and an AR barrel wrench. There are very few 'smiths out there that actually KNOW the ins and outs of the M1 rifle.
            Jon
            That's good advice.

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              #7
              Originally posted by David Milisock View Post

              That's good advice.
              It's outstanding advice. I am going to take some armorer classes for the AR and just like TJT said even with a little more knowledge than the average bear, that would never make me qualified to do proper work on M1s, even considering all of the knowledge and experience I have on M14s and working on my own for the last 20 years. It might be the best idea for the OP to send off his rifle to someone who is a specialist or really knows M1s specifically.
              m14brian

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                #8
                My major area of interest is Colt revolvers and I know how difficult it is to find gunsmiths that really know what they are doing to work on those. The M1 is a more complex gun than those and I don't know where to start looking for a knowledgeable gunsmith. Any help in that area would be appreciated.

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                  #9
                  I've had a Garand worked on by the folks at the CMP in Anniston. I'm very happy with the result.
                  The thief may possess something he stole, but he does not own it.
                  The owner has a right to take his property back from the thief.

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                    #10
                    Thanks everyone for your help.

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                      #11
                      I was tought the Army way, make like a karate chop, smartly open the discharge handle load the clip with your left hand holding the M-1 with your four fingers of your right hand. take your right thumb and drive the 8 rounds down in an upward motion release your karate chop. Now tell me what is a Holdbrook device, sounds like it has something to do with what I just explained.

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                      • MontanaMachinist
                        MontanaMachinist commented
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                        It is a modified version of the rifles op rod catch, it removes the automatic bolt release, and automatic clip ejection. Makes the rifle function alot more like the m14. It also remedies some problems caused by other modifications to the m1 garand like .35 whelen caliber conversion that causes the clip to eject early with rounds left in the rifle.

                      #12
                      Being a machinist i have watched all sorts of well trained people make mistakes and end up with a smashed finger or worse. And alot of people lack the dexterity they ounce had, but still want to enjoy the things they love. Its not a gimmick, just a simple modification to the operation of a machine to meet the needs or desires of some people. Its not a permanent modification, nor does it make the rifle better or worse, it just makes it more comfortable or easier for people who don't enjoy playing with mouse traps. I'm on both sides, I really enjoy the original function, but sometimes I dont want to chase clips, I however always miss the ping at the end. And I am far far from rich.
                      Last edited by MontanaMachinist; 12-06-2020, 11:56 AM.

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                        #13
                        hey Montana: thanks for the reply, I’ve been around Military rifles quite a while, just got on this site not long ago, kinda learning how to use it. , and just made a deal on another Garand. In transit as we speak, I shot a M-1 in the Army Reserves, and later went to the Beach ranges at Fort Ord. M-14 flight crew member M-1 Carbine with the 185 Avia co. Been reviewing ops for the M-1 sighting and getting ready to hit the range, trying to knock off the rust. Also joined the Garand Collectors, association, really don’t know what I am going to get, so I realize it’s a crap shoot. Thanks again Salute AJ.

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