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    Questions about my 1944 M1 Garand

    I have had this rifle for over 10 years and I am curious if it is a correct rifle. 1944 SA 2,709,866 This is the first time that I have taken it apart. Click image for larger version

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    D28287-17 SA B4A BOLT
    D28290-8 SA TRIGGER HOUSING
    D282291 32 REC. Right side
    D353829 SA 06 5 B (DIAMOND) OP ROD
    1 SA 4 44 BARREL
    DRC REAR SIGHT
    SA-11 SAFETY
    S.A.
    G.A.W. STOCK
    No Proof Mark Pistol grip?

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        #4
        I have SA 2770090 with a SA 4-44 barrel, came from a WW2 veterans estate sale in a remote area in Wisconsin in the early 90's. I dealer friend bought some antiques and there was a 22 rim fire and a shotgun plus the M1. The M1 has lost some finish and the stock is marked-up, there wasn't any interest in the M1 rifle and he called me, I bought it as I am rather certain it was original

        serial number 2770090, receiver D 28291 32 0 65 B <>. Bolt rev 12SA S-A1, barrel 1SA 4-44, Type 3 lock bar rear sight, gas cyl wide base, lock screw single slot. Follower & slide rev 12, bullet guide forged, follower rod long fork, clip latch square front, op rod D35382 9 SA no cut.

        trigger housing D28290-12-SA, trigger guard milled, hammer C46008-5 SA, safety SA_11. cartouche very faint SA GAW

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        • NAM67-68
          NAM67-68 commented
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          Sounds like my rifle except that my stock is in question and the rear sight. My other M1 Garand which is a 3 million number has the same rear sight as the one pictured.

        #5
        It is not correct. Resr sight us post war and I would question ANY stock with cartouches that sharp and especially without a proof stamp. That just wasn't done. I think there are other descrepencies but I don't have my books with me.

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          #6
          here are some SA GAW cartouches for comparison.

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          • NAM67-68
            NAM67-68 commented
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            My stock is definitely in really good shape for sure I am surprised that people were messing with them 10 to 15 years ago. I didn't think that they were that popular back then? I know that they were really inexpensive back then . My last one that I will post up later only costs me $700.00..

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          So there isn't any reason for me to try to preserve this rifle and I could throw it in my truck and go shoot some deer? This is a closer shot. So this is probably a stamp put on by an individual or a factory refurbishment? Click image for larger version

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            #8
            That stamp is as queer as a $3 bill. As previously mentioned, rear sight is not correct and I believe the -8 trigger housing is waaaay too early for your rifle. I think the -8 should be around the 900K- to early million range. I think your TH s/b a -12.
            Jon

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            • NAM67-68
              NAM67-68 commented
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              So even back then someone was apparently messing around with the rifles. sad for me but thank you for letting me know. I had never taken the rifles down and I didn't know much about them.

            #9
            People were stamping fake cartouches since the late 1980's, favorite stamps were SPG and GHS. Later on the WRA WB became a favorite to fake when surplus wood was found. There was always nice WW2 cartouched stocks around until about the last 12 years. Even the post WW2 rebuild stamps are faked: examples SA SHM and SA SPG, carbines stamps are faked too

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              #10
              Really sad that they had to screw things up. I have learned a few things about the rifles since I joined the Forum and the faking part saddens me.

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                #11
                Well, I wouldn't throw it into the back of your truck and go deer hunting. Get her a padded hard case, then go hunting! I know you didn't mean that literally. Anyways, I wouldn't feel bad about shooting this one, and just having fun with it. I hate it too when someone messes with the originality of one of these guns. It happens. That's why "correct" and "original" weapons are so scarce and so valuable.

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                • NAM67-68
                  NAM67-68 commented
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                  Thank you sir.

                #12
                Originally posted by NAM67-68 View Post
                So there isn't any reason for me to try to preserve this rifle and I could throw it in my truck and go shoot some deer? This is a closer shot. So this is probably a stamp put on by an individual or a factory refurbishment? Click image for larger version

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                Thanks for posting up this photo of the fake GAW (this is actually very helpful).
                I save images of both good and fake stamps and this is the first time I have seen this particular stamp, so happy to have it in my library.
                I keep them on my phone so I can quickly reference both good and bad while shopping out in the world.

                Rob

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