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    Garand feeding issue

    Finally shot the garand today, and it was great except 6/8 clips I loaded had at least one bullet jam such as the pic I posted below. I believe this is a clip issue, because not all bullets were fully seated in the clip when loaded (REALLY TIGHT) and when I push one down on one side the other side pops back up, etc. Anyway does this sound like the issue? Or should I check into a certain component that may need replacement? Any ideas would be appreciated. I have also uploaded a pic of the gap between the bottom of the clip and the casing, the rims seem to want to ride on each other.

    Thanks

    #2
    That slight gap normally won't be a problem. What kind of enblocs are you using? Some Greek enblocs are useless and all Chinese enblocs should be recycled or thrown away. Those are the ones you find at Gunshows in plastic bagged multi packs and are unmarked.

    If you continue to have those feed malfunctions and you know you're using good enblocs be sure the slide on the follower is moving freely, grease the grooves in the receiver the follower runs in and see if that makes a difference. If not it may be the follower itself needs replacement or the follower arm is bent or worn.

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      #3
      Thanks for the Info. They are brand new AEC, which I have heard great things about but also a few folks having issues with them being way too tight. I've noticed when I get 8 in there the rims of one row is riding in the right./casing groove (best way to describe it). Does this cause it to pull on a second shell when one is being chambered? I ordered a few original usgi clips, and a new op rod spring since I'm not sure the condition of it. I did break down the rifle and relubed it with grease, including the follower tracks

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        #4
        I forgot to mention I also did a feed function test after cleaning, and when I ejected one round (I think 2nd or 3rd) TWO rounds came out. One out the chamber and one popped right out of the en Bloc. I have already checked the follower and everything is moving freely and looks straight as an arrow. Though I haven't had the rifle long, everything seems extremely well maintained and in working order.

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          #5
          Some of the new AEC clips have proven to be problematic. Look for original GI clips marked BRW. They cost more but work.

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          • Bones3
            Bones3 commented
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            +1 for BRW enblocs. I have a 1942 Winchester that won't accept anything else.

          #6
          Grab the AEC clips and stretch them a bit. They often are really tight when new. You can also take some fine ScotchBrite or steel wool and smooth them inside and out or run them through a tumbler for an hour or two. The USGI clips will be much looser and function better.

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          • Rtf2lover17
            Rtf2lover17 commented
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            I have tried to stretch them a little bit, and I have smoothed a few of them out with 0000 steel wool. I don't own a tumbler, is there any way I can replicate one?

          #7
          I ordered 2 BW and one SA this morning to test them, and bought a new op rod spring just cause. Will keep updated

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            #8
            Also I know this is random for the post but does anyone have experience with their front sight falling off? It fell off in the case when I got home after shooting. I assume the recoil caused this, I inspected the bolt and threads and everything seemed ok. I just put some red loctite and cranked it down real tight. Is this normal or is my front sight too loose? It feels solid now, although it did before I shot it too...

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              #9
              Originally posted by Rtf2lover17 View Post
              Also I know this is random for the post but does anyone have experience with their front sight falling off? It fell off in the case when I got home after shooting. I assume the recoil caused this, I inspected the bolt and threads and everything seemed ok. I just put some red loctite and cranked it down real tight. Is this normal or is my front sight too loose? It feels solid now, although it did before I shot it too...
              Don't use LocTite especially red. It simply needs to be much tighter. They never loosen when tight enough. A long shaft Allen wrench even with a cheater will do the deed. First prerequisite is to buy a quality tool and not use some Chicom POC. Now, if you ever need to change it you're going to need a good amount of heat to ever loosen that screw and you may fail and strip the Allen head before it ever loosens. There is nothing that needs LocTite on an M1 that can't be secured with simple tools and the correct elbow grease and torque. Lots of torque.
              Last edited by lapriester; 03-05-2018, 04:19 PM.

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                #10
                I would have used LocTite Blue myself. At least you can get that to release without a crowbar, especially if you only use a small amount. That and a proper torque to the bolt.

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                  #11
                  I built 10 of these guys last winter got 8 brand new springs just because but all I got was malfunctions chopped them down in half in increments usually 3/4”off solved a lot of problems especially if the clip is hard to insert and solved every failure to feed

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                    #12
                    19 inches on the op rod spring works and one more issue I ran into the hammer spring if it’s to stiff it will cause failure to eject/feed that little burst of pressure can only do so much again small trim job on hammer spring this of course 150 grain Bullet 48 grains imr 4895

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                      #13
                      You must be using Wolff springs
                      Use springs from Orion 7 or Garand gear and you will have no issues or have to modify springs

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                        #14
                        Originally posted by Orlando View Post
                        You must be using Wolff springs
                        Use springs from Orion 7 or Garand gear and you will have no issues or have to modify springs
                        This^^^^^exactly! Wolf springs are junk. Also, it's highly unlikely your rounds are getting rimlock--they're rimless cases.
                        Jon

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                          #15
                          Generally feeding issues as you pictured are related to piss poor quality clips that swell when loaded with rounds, a sticky follower slide, worn follower guide tabs causing the follower to tip or hang up, lack of adequate lubrication on the receiver follower guide rails, too stiff or too long an op rod spring. The simple factor of rounds not "completely" seated in the clip is unlikely to cause that feed problem unless the rim is hung up on the tab in the clip that secures the rim. It is not unusual to see rims in enblocs off the bottom in loaded clips taken from USGI or Greek ammo taken from fresh bandos out of newly opened ammo cases. And they generally load and feed just fine.

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