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    Garand Lubrication Documents help

    Hello, I am trying to put together some information regarding lubrication for the Garand and I am either waiting on responses from libraries or having trouble finding the following documents for research purposes. Maybe someone in the community can help me.
    I am looking for anything greater than Change 6, TR 1395-A, any copy of TR 1300-30K, TM 9-850 Aug 1941, published comments on SA Spec SXS-77 describing it. Change 6, 23-5 Dec 42 on the use of lubriplate. Also would like any information regarding the Hampden company and their production of Stano-Rust tubes for SA. Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide. Regards, CC

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    I realize this is an old thread and no one replieduntil now, so I'll try an answer anyway. Hope it's useful.
    FM 23-5 from May 1965 shows where grease needs to be applied on Page 21. Looks like bottom of OpRod handle, the groove the OpRod cam goes in, camming surface in OpRod where bolt lug fits, Bolt camming lug on trigger group, front and rear locking recesses in receiver, and the lip of the receiver (rear).
    I picked this reprint up at a gun show a long time ago. The publication guys there tend to have most of the field manuals.
    Worst cast, do a search for the specific ones you want and see who has them online.

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      #3
      Thanks for the reply. I have the information from post wwii, I’m still looking for additional information listed in the original post. Regards

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        #4
        You're waaaay over-thinking and needlessly stressing about a non-issue. To the M1 rifle, grease is grease is grease. Any light grease will work. Get yourself a 1 lb tub of high-temp, high-pressure wheel bearing grease from your local Wal Mart for about $5. It's more than sufficient for the rifle and that 1 lb tub will last you 10 life times. That is what I've used for the past 40 years and never had hiccup 1 with it.
        Jon

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          #5
          Jon, thanks for tip; however, if you are still using grease you are stuck in the 20th century. You should be using a non-chloric, silicon-based kitchen lubricant. Ever since I watched Clark Griswald use it I’ve been hooked. Actually, I enjoy doing research and I was tired of reading the same misinformation spread on the web about the evolution of Garand lubricants so I decided to write an article that would hopefully add to the information already published. So if you think the answer to the earliest prescribed grease used is Stano-Rust followed by lubriplate that is why I’m conducting research. However, it’s about priority # 8 right now. In the interim when I get time to shoot, I’ll continue to use up the hundreds of little plastilube tubs that I have. No stress at all, if you were thinking graphite cup grease I would have thought you were on to something... and if you have any of the documents I requested I would be grateful. Regards

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            #6
            I do have a old tube of Stano-Rust somewhere if that helps you any if you need pictures of any info that's on the tube

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              #7
              Bill, thank you for kind offer. If the tube actually says Stano Rust, definitely yes. I will compare it to the pictures that Bob sent me regarding the tube pictured in Canfield’s book. If it is a SXS-77 spec tube I would like to see that too as I have a couple of different variations of that tube; made at SA as well as private contract. One of the things I’m trying to determine is if Stano Rust 3 is equivalent to SA Spec SXS-77. For some reason I believe no, because Stano Rust 3 was actually a product developed by Standard Oil and was being used as a preservative in government operations and war effort. More to follow when I get caught up from the winter storm damage and spring clean up. Regards,
              Curt

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                #8
                Guess my memory isn't as good as I thought. Its a SXS-77 Tube and not in as good as condition as I remember either. I believe it reads" Gredag Corporation" I will keep digging around and see what I can find

                Last edited by Orlando; 05-05-2018, 06:59 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CCyooper View Post
                  Jon, thanks for tip; however, if you are still using grease you are stuck in the 20th century.
                  I've got no problem being "stuck" in the 20th century. Let's see, in the 20th century we:
                  Kicked Germany's azz TWICE
                  Drove the Imperial Japanese to their knees
                  invented the television, microwave ovens, cellular telephones,
                  Landed a man on the Moon.
                  I ride a bicycle that I bought brand new in '84.
                  My youngest rifle is 65 years old
                  I graduated college in '76
                  My father fought in WWII.
                  I'm a child of the 50's.
                  Yep, I think the 20th century is a pretty good place to be from.
                  Jon
                  Last edited by TJT; 05-07-2018, 12:17 PM.

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                    #10
                    Bill, Thank you... I have that tube but if you have any information Gredag that would be great. Regards,

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                      #11
                      The original light coloured grease tubs that fit in the buttstock with the cleaning kit was Lubriplate 130-A. https://www.lubriplate.com/Products/...30-Series.html
                      They might be able to give you the skinny from their records as to when it was issued. Not sure if anything was issued before that.
                      These guys had some info as well regarding the later Plastilube: http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/...reasepots.html
                      Might be a good place to ask a few questions since they might have access to government records on that.
                      This guy has some of the Lubriplate 130-A tubs so you can compare what the tubs and grease looked like: https://www.ammogarand.com/m1-garand...-wwii1130.html
                      FM 23-5 for the M1 from 1965 and FM 23-8 for the M14 only mention rifle grease in the maintenance section, which by that time should have been Plastilube. Both were more specific regarding oil type lubrication.
                      You'd think there has to be an early armorers book that would specify the grease and oil types that were considered OK so you could track what type was issued when based on revision date. Might be a chore to find earlier editions.

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                        #12
                        I have been working on other things but every once in a while I attempt to push the noodle farther along on my Garand lubrication article. When they were having so many lubrication problems in 41-42 they were trying everything. It's funny how the infantry board made the recommendation to carry/add a pencil to the cleaning kit for lubrication. I guess they thought a drier graphite lubricant would be better than the old bearing grease that was in use previously. So now you know why you found that old Kimberly #525 6B in your cleaning kit.

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