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    Identifying Mystery M1 Stock

    Earlier this month I received a Field Grade M1 from the CMP, and overall am very pleased with it. May 1942 SA receiver with almost all 1942-43 SA parts. I have been going through and dating all the parts with success, except for the stock. The markings, and lack there of, have really been confusing me.
    The stock has a few obvious stamps, though.

    On the pistol grip is the "P" stamp. It looks as though it may have one time had the circle, but may have been sanded or worn off.

    Underneath the butt plate there is what looks to be an "L", "4", "1", and "H". I've seen markings under the butt plate before but don't know what they mean.

    Just behind the receiver on top of the grip there seems to be a circle or an "8". I have not seen a marking in this location before.

    Where I would expect a cartouche on the side of the stock there is not one obvious, but upon closer inspection it looks like there may have been something stamped there at sometime, but I can't decipher it.

    The clearest marking is an "M" on the bottom of the pistol grip. I would expect this to be a re-arsenal stamp but the closest I know of would be the MR for Mount Rainier, I have yet to see a single "M". The "M" stamp is by far the most crisp so my assumption would be that the stock was sanded at some point and the "M" came after, but that is a pure guess.

    I'm pretty baffled by this and even with all the information out there, I'm stumped. Anyone have any ideas? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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    Last edited by neilevv; 12-22-2017, 11:17 PM.

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    I don't know if Mt. Rainier rebuilt M1's, I always thought they were the rebuild center for 1911's for a short duration after the war? 1911 collectors up here in the PNW are always on the look out for them.
    Last edited by Phil McGrath; 12-23-2017, 05:53 AM.

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      #3
      It "might" be the RIA FK stamp

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        #4
        Rub some linseed oil over the cartouche area. Sometimes it highlights the cartouche enough to see.it.
        Looking for SA bayonet 1045220

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          #5
          RCS, I think you're totally right. It definitely looks like that is what it would be. Upon further research of that stamp, it also seems to always come with the stamp behind the receiver which is actually an ordnance bomb.
          Last edited by neilevv; 12-23-2017, 09:23 AM.

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            #6
            Judging from the "back porch" (the area behind the receiver rear or "horse shoe") I'd have to say it's a SA stock.
            Jon

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              #7
              Originally posted by RCS View Post
              It "might" be the RIA FK stamp
              It is. The M on the bottom of the grip is probably a rack letter. All Mt. Rainier marked stocks that I have seen are stamped on the left side of the stock.

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                #8
                From everyone’s responses and what I have researched, it seems to be an SA stock for sure, rearsenaled at RIA during 1941-46, given the RIA/FK stamp. That would seem to indicate quite an old stock if was reworked sometime during the war.
                Excuse my ignorance, but if the M mark
                is a rack letter, what does that indicate? I have seen rack numbers painted on stocks but never stamped like that. Any significance ?

                Thanks everyone for all the insights!

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                  #9
                  I have a WWII stock with the numbers stamped. No significance. Just depends on the personal preference of who was in charge or what means they had to mark it. Stamps aren't as likely to be obliterated as are painted characters.
                  Jon

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by neilevv View Post
                    Excuse my ignorance, but if the M mark
                    is a rack letter, what does that indicate? I have seen rack numbers painted on stocks but never stamped like that. Any significance ?

                    Thanks everyone for all the insights!
                    No significance. The military uses numbers and letters to mark weapons in an arms room. It makes it easier to locate said weapons, especially when there are hundreds of the same rifle in one arms room.

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                      #11
                      Here is a very early no-trap SA SPG stock with the rack number 18 on the grip

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