early direct conversion ?

[RCS]

early four digit receiver with SA 4-41 barrel, some early parts, late revision 3 operating rod

[RDS]

Thank you for sharing

[Bubba1]

Very nice. What stock is on it and is the rear handguard cut or uncut ?

[Jersey Devil]

Very nice, Robert!

[Gastrapsforme]

Great to see. Very nice

[m14brian]

That's sweet!
m14brian

[RCS]

Brian, do some research on the serial number

[RCS]

Research on serial number

sent to Winchester on Sept 19, 1938

[joe48]

RCS, I'm new to the M1 Garand but I have a few questions? I pick up one the other day the S.N. is 39,XXX it looks like in May of 1940. The stock is really beat to hell. Would they have had that gun over seas and changed thing over time? Or would have made same changed before it went over seas? Like the bolt is marked D28287-12SA RE5B,M1Sca butt plate, Type 2 rear sight, but it does have the Old type trigger guard. That's the best I can tell until I get it home to strip it and check other numbers, because I haven't picked it up yet. But I got a real good deal on it. I pick up M1 Carbine there it turned out great! Thanks for any info., Joe

[RCS]

Your rifle serial number39xxx was an original gas trap rifle and converted to the new front end and could have been rebuilt a number of times since

[joe48]

RCS, Should I just refinish the stock than? Or a older original stock in better condition. Thanks RCS, Joe
I wish I had stated this along time ago. But in the late 60's, 70's and 80's I was shoot all kinds of different types of shooting competition. I should started this then when my Dad was alive. He was in WWII, 3 of the major battles, Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Northern France and the Battle of the Rhine Land. He carry a M1 Carbine, but I got a picture of him with his MP40 he used too. I'm really getting all this together with the stuff he brought back for the Great grand kids and their kids! I still want to shoot them a little to, I'm not that old.

[Orlando]

Stock more than likely isnt original to the rifle. If there are no cartouches go ahead and refinish.

[joe48]

Well I got the gun and refinish the stock and got all 3pcs. to match. I used a trick I used on old flintlock stocks and other gun stocks. I used Potash Permanganate, it will stain anything, and a airbrush to blend the colors to match. I would send some pictures but I don't know how to do it on here. Hear are some of the parts S.N. 39171, Receiver D28291-1, Bolt D28287-12 SA, Barrel 1 S-A-3-45 (D35448-35-a-97-A-1, Trigger housing 6528290 SA, Hammer C46008-7 SA, Safety C46016-9 SA, Windage knob Type 3, Follower Type 2, Bullet guide Type 2,Gas cylinder lock Type 3, Gas cylinder unmarked,Gas cylinder lock screw Type 2, Front sight Type 3A, Trigger guard Type 1, SA butt plate, Operating rod national match. Should I change the Op rod and some of the other parts? I can get a stock around 1941-1942 walnut and not that birch stock that I have on it? Thanks Joe,

[Jersey Devil]

Any photos to share here with us on this rifle? Sounds like it came out nice.

[Moorem1s]

Robert, do most (or All) direct conversions display the 7th modification or are there some that just had the front end and barrel changed?

[RCS]

Obviously not all the early receivers received the 7th round modification as they still turn-up once in awhile. You would have to talk with Billy Pyle as to the extent of changes performed during the conversion to gas port barrels. I know some SA SPG stocks were only slightly modified in the butt plate area. You would think on the early direct conversions that all receivers had the guide ribs built up but it is certain that some were not modified.

some data from Mac and others showing the barrel dates on direct conversions

s/n 175 with S-A-6-40 bbl, s/n 256 with S-A-7-40 bbl, s/n 395 with S-A-9-40 bbl, s/n 404 with S-A-7-40 bbl, s/n 18594 with S-A-12_40 bbl, s/n 37687 with S-A-12-40 bbl