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[RCS]

This rifle once was part of the Steve Marvin collection and there have been two data sheets published in different publications starting in 1992. I have exchanged letters with Steve Marvin years ago when he was in Hawaii concerning USN ship markings on Model 1903 stocks. The first data sheet is not that detailed and the second data sheet from the GSR just did not include serif P in circle proof
and lower band C-46000-0. I have owned and seen a lot of numbered SA SPG stocks but never with a drawing number and serif P proof - one could exist, but just never surfaced yet.

This s/n 21167 is a nice example - but if was mine I would replace the numbered lower band with a un-number band and replace the stock. Besides the circle P with serif, the cartouche is not a good example. Just look at the letter G in the SPG photo, the style of the letters and the box. If it was mine I would restock it with another numbered, plain P in a circle and correct SA SPG cartouche. I
have showed this cartouche to some very advanced collectors and they are in agreement concerning replacement with a better example

[Bubba1]

Restocking a SPG stock is definitely easier said than done .I know very few people who would have such a stock . If one were available then what would it hurt but I would keep the original stock with the rifle as many have found out later on that the part they removed and replaced was actually correct . JMHO

[jnw847]

I knew the rifle was in Steve Marvin's collection at one time. I attempted to meet him at a firearms auction in Cincinnati two years ago but never managed to be at the auction at the same times. I would love to meet him, discuss the rifle and get a little more insight in to it's hsitory.

I also know of the 1992 data sheet in GCA Journel but was not aware of the one in GSR. RCS, do you remember what issue it was in?

[RCS]

An article on 21167 in the Garand Stand Report Winter 2004 No 53

[jnw847]

Thanks for the info!

[Jersey Devil]

I really need to check out that article.

[jnw847]

Regarding serif P proof marks on SPG stocks, James D. Julia auctions is auctioning gas trap #30562. Looking at the data sheet prepared by Scott Duff it shows a serif P proof on the SPG stock. Here's a link to the data sheet: http://jamesdjulia.com/wp-content/up...ov/50908a3.PDF

[Jersey Devil]

That is incredible. If I were able to own such an example I'd leave it exactly as is. To me, substantially original is as close to original as I'd ever get and I'd be happy to leave it just as I acquired it!

I hope someone here gets it and doesn't fiddle with it.

[RCS]

If some buys 30562 they might want an original period cartouche and correct front handguard spacer