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    Number 3420

    Some pictures of Gas Trap Garand 3420 were published in the Journal of the Garand Collectors' Association, Fall 2015 issue.

    Here's the rest of it:





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    #2
    Eric, Here is a photo of 3445. Seems most barrels for your serial number range are D28286 J 11 or J 12 ? while your barrel fits the 18K and 20K better unless you are working a later gas trap rebuild.

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    • Jersey Devil
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      RCS,
      I retrieved your photo, resized it, and posted it for you.
      Hope you don't mind.
      --Brian

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    "re-weld"






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      #4
      Eric,
      I went and moved this to the Gas Trap section since the pictures worked in your original post and again in your follow up post. It will get more attention here.
      Can you provide any more details on this "Franken-Trap"? What about the rifle beneath it??

      Robert,
      The reason some of your photos don't work and others do is likely due to the size of the image. If you would like a photo posted, that won't otherwise work on your end, just email it to me. I've mentioned this before, but never heard back from you.

      Thanks guys. Interesting conversation.
      --Brian
      Welcome to the Addiction!

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        The standard Garand that's pictured under 3420 is just there for comparison purposes since the GT rifles are substantially shorter.
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          #6
          Eric and Robert,
          If you're having problems posting the photos it's because they're too large. I can resize and post them for you if you'd like, just email them to me via [email protected].
          Thanks,
          --Brian
          Welcome to the Addiction!

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            #7
            3420's receiver was cut in half. Later, it was welded back together, so it's a "re-weld".

            The drawing number on the front of the receiver is consistent with the serial number on the back, which is unusual in a reweld.
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            • Jersey Devil
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              All photos have been resized to the large format. Notice there's still a difference? That's because the photos were taken or uploaded to the hostimg service in different formats. This is the best I can do from my end.

            #8
            Eric, I know s/n 23 was only torch cut down the left side and easy to repair. Any additional details on the gas trap barrel and stock ?

            I know Jim Yocum found a 1903 ram rod bayonet rifle in a small gun shop near Chicago around 2003 (it was in the 11,000 serial number range) and did not pay much at the time. He later sold it at a Lexington gun show for 25K. A ram rod bayonet 1903 barrel still chambered for the 30-03 cartridge is far more difficult to find than any gas trap barrel. It is very difficult to restore a 1903 in 30-03 cal.

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              The long-channel, no-trap stock has been re-finished and retains no markings except the circle P under the grip. Wood putty has been used to fill dents in the stock. The stock hardware is early; no drawing numbers are visible.

              The buttplate has a border to the checkering, no drawing number, and blued screws, also un-numbered.

              The lower handguard has the relief cut and the upper one lacks the special GT ferrule.

              The bore is sharp and shiny. Throat erosion gauges 0 on an Ara Mor gauge, purchased from Brownells'.

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                That butt plate is a Winchester plate. Rick B

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                  The circle-P cartouche is high up under the pistol grip.

                  And thank you, Rick B. about the buttplate.

                  Is it a Winchester because of the border, the lack of drawing number, or both?
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                    #12
                    Eric, Here is a photo of some - but not all the checkering patterns used on the M1 rifle solid butt plates

                    Left is SA without drawing number, middle is SA with drawing number and left is NOS Winchester with dulite color (The Winchester solid butt plate came from Duff many years ago). You can tell by the diamond pattern at the toe if the Springfield solid butt plate has the drawing number or is without the drawing number

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                      So, it's not just the border and lack of number but the blue Du-Lite finish, then, that distinguishes Winchester buttplates?


                      Notice the line, like a mold seam, that runs all around 3420's muzzle plug. I have not noticed this on other GTs, evidently because my plug is a fake. It does hold everything together snugly up front, though.
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                      • Bubba1
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                        The muzzle plug is a reproduction .

                      #14
                      Yes the checkering fully on the edge of the plate is Winchester. SA has flat sides and missing diamonds throughout the edge. Rick B

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                        Here is one of Springfield's style with the flat edge up top. Rick B

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