Reloading M22 Frangible 108gr Bullets

[Jersey Devil]

I'm buying a few hundred M22 frangible 108gr bullets (green and white tips) and would like to know about loading these as live rounds. I keep coming up with different charges from 9.0 to 12.0 grains. The goal is to make these cartridges for home defense, but yet powerful enough to cycle a Garand. I've also heard varying info regarding their ability to effectively and consistently cycle a Garand. That info came to me from someone whom I don't really look at as any sort of expert on anything, but he is interesting to talk to once in a while.

Anyway, is there any load data on these rounds?

Thanks in advance!

[Phil McGrath]

What do these little BB's look like? And what powder calls for 9-12grs? If anything I might try 48grs of IMR-4895 its well under book starting load and see if it cycles. Even with it being a frangible, I doubt there is anything solid enough in the home too stop it and make it do what its supposed too do and that's fragment.

[Jersey Devil]

What do these little BB's look like? And what powder calls for 9-12grs? If anything I might try 48grs of IMR-4895 its well under book starting load and see if it cycles. Even with it being a frangible, I doubt there is anything solid enough in the home too stop it and make it do what its supposed too do and that's fragment.

I'll have these in-hand next week and will post photos.

Meanwhile, any thoughts on the brass I should use for these? I wanted to get generic 30-06 brass, but I'm unsure if they even exist.

[m14brian]

I don't know about these loads particularly, but the retired Master Sergeant i used to shoot with had regularly made loads for the M1A and Garand that would barely cycle the action, for shooting at 100 yards, but the loads would do it reliably so I don't know if it has to do with the type of powder or if it's those projectiles that the gentleman you got the info from is the reason it wouldn't cycle reliably.
m14brian

[Phil McGrath]

I don't think I would load these for home/self defense loads, I did a little digging and they were originally developed for aerial gunnery training and not accidently killing the Pilot if the bullet struck the armor plate pearcing it, instead if would fragment. There made from powdered lead and bakelite, 30.06 brass is pretty generic and any make or brand will do its not like .308/7.62 brass.


And by arial gunnery, a plane would pull a target streamer and the gunner's from a 2nd plane would shoot at the streamer it as it passed by. Never directly at the plane pulling the streamer.

[m14brian]

I don't think I would load these for home/self defense loads

Nah, I think he should go for it. This is gonna be Jersey Devil in about 35 years lol.
m14brian

[Phil McGrath]

Hahahhahah^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Jersey Devil]

LOL!!! Yes, very accurate!!!